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to take you back to that -- not the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling issue that the republicans do seem to be going soft on, i do think one of the reasons why they went so soft is because major traditionally republican lobbying groups were advocating like the chamber of commerce came out strongly saying this is crazy. i'm wondering if there are other traditionally republican groups like law enforcement organizations, you know, the police associations who might tend to be conservatives. if they came out strong and spoke, if the faith community came out strong, those could be groups that would end up moving and you know, shaking that a little bit. just quickly let's take a listen to who senator ted cruz was talking about -- what he thinks is going to happen as a result of the dunn gun debate. take a listen. >> i think the consequence i think he's going to pay a serious political price. and i think the price that's going to be paid on this is going to manifest in senate races in 2014. >> jennifer: your take on that. he's flipping our argument on its head. he think it will benefit the repub
still play domiciled debt ceiling issue and i'm wondering if you can tell me what would have been if congress did not raise the debt ceiling and that would make it such a dangerous option for going forward. >> i think our credit rating would go down. and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how will we pay veterans? [inaudible] >> now, the republicans are saying pick and choose. and so let's have a vote here. which ones would we pick? which ones would not occur right away? i mean, the president was right to say in my judgment to the republicans, don't do it. you're playing with fire. >> i don't understand that i guess. why are they playing with fire? what would have been? >> those are two different questions. i think republicans have some idea what would have been. we've been through this with the credit rating and i think essentially they know what would have been in so they say let's pick and choose. either way, they haven't said which they would pick and which would be left aside. the president made clear, we are not talking about future expenses. we're
-bills. at the end of 2011 the last time we had a debt ceiling issue we saw bill rates for four week bills and three-month bills start to move up. today we had a one-month bill auction, trading on at five basis points and the auction went off at 9.5 basis points and many are attributing to anxieties and rule 2a7 from the s.e.c. which gives you rules on what kind of time frames can you have with respect to holding in the money funds and a little bit of selling today may be from that group as well. >> anxiety over the debt ceiling crisis? >> exactly. about getting principal back as ridiculous as it may sound. >> david, jump in here. feels like a slow volume day again. are people waiting on some of the banks earnings because tomorrow we've, of course, got some bigies? >> waiting on earnings, but earnings expectations are very low. i think 60% to 70% of stocks will beat their estimates this quarter, and i'm going to watch for guidance over the balance of the year, maria. now you'll have three guests here who are going to be favorably disposed to the market and that makes me a little bit nervous. neverth
that. so we -- and we still have that strength. but we can't move beyond the debt ceiling issue. i knew that would be a stopper, a game stopper. so we have to address that. now, the conditions exist that there can be a grand compromise that will move the economy forward or we can just go into free fall. for example, the last negotiation on the debt ceiling, well, the president, i thought, gave more than he should have given, but nonetheless, he did that. now the onus is on the rps to come to the table. because, see, what has happened is, tax cuts are essentially -- tax increases are off the table. and we got revenue from that. not enough that we needed, but that's off the table. and that was a big issue for the republicans. >> danny, let's move on. let's talk about the possibility of a government shutdown. the president seemed to indicate that it was, first of all, the republicans' responsibility. that they were going to take the onus, the responsibility for this, and that it was potentially something that he was willing to allow happen, because he felt that most people will blame the r
'm still pleading ignorance on in this whole debt ceiling issue. i'm telling you what would happen if congress did not raise the debt ceiling that would make it such a dangerous option for going forward. >> i think our credit rating go down, and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would we pay veterans? >> there wouldn't be any money? >> no -- >> [inaudible] >> the republicans are saying pick and choose. and so let's have a vote here. which ones would we pick? which ones would not occur right away? i mean, the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the republicans don't do it. you're playing with fire. >> but why? i haven't -- i don't understand that, i guess. >> why what? >> why are they playing with fire? what would happen in? >> but those are two different questions. i think the republicans have some idea what would happen. we've been through this with the credit rating. and i think, essentially, they know what would happen, and so they say let's pick and choose. by the way, they haven't said which they would pick. and which would be left as
will open up with remarks about three to five minutes about the debt ceiling. it's an issue that's been with the president throughout his presidency. he's worked with congress four times to raise it the first time with the stimulus law in 2009, but this time, the president said he has no intention of negotiating with republicans in congress about whether to raise the debt ceiling, saying it's their obligation, not his. another issue clearly to come up will be gun violence. the vice president, joe biden, presents his recommendations based on his task force meetings with the president tomorrow. and maybe the chuck hagel nomination, though which not beleaguered, has developed momentum on capitol hill. those three issues, scott, likely to dominate today's press conference. >> major, thank you very much. six days before inauguration day for the president and it has been exactly one month since that unimaginable tragedy at newtown, connecticut. the vice president has spent the last several days talking to various constituent groups about gun violence in this country, me
that are going to be before us, once we get past this debt ceiling issue so my recommendation with investors is that at this point in time, it's premature to react to those comments, even though they may be troubling to all of us. let's see how it unfolds before you begin making any investment moves based on a potential tax hike. cheryl: well, yeah. talking about more tax revenue coming in, i'm sorry, but ears perk up. let's talk about the specific company that you like on your radar, and there's a couple reasons. first and foremost, they doubled the dividend on monday. the company doing well financially, at the same time, dividend payers like a ford, joe, could, again, fall out of investor payer. do you stick by ford if the tax fight continues? >> yes, because beyond the dividend, it's an attractive stock. auto industry as a whole, we think, has still tremendous upside potential since it bottomed out in 2009, it continues to improve. ford, specifically, streamlined down to lincoln and ford models. they have a ways to go yet, but they are really looking to compete head on in the united state
this with the debt ceiling issue, what exactly would happen if congress did got raised the debt ceiling in what makes it a dangerous option of? >> our credit rating would go down and how would we pay the bills? how would we pay social security? how would be paid veterans? >> there is no money? >> the republicans say pick and choose. so let's have a vote. who do we pack? -- pick? the president was right to say, in my judgment, to the republicans, don't do it. you are playing with fire. >> why? why are we playing with fire? what would happen? >> those are two different questions. the republicans have an idea. we have been through this with a credit rating. they know what would happen so they say pick and choose. the president made clear we're not talking about future expenses but paying for what congress has voted. pick and choose is something at this point* is theoretical but will become very real without spelling out. you will not pay soldiers or send out social security checks are paid defense contractors? that is what is involved. >> of democrats feel this is dangerous is a net the republican advan
it as such should have been. i think we should extend if not end the debt ceiling issue. we should just set it aside for a considerable period of time. we should tackle sequestration and we have to do that in the next six weeks. so i'm hopeful that we don't drag this out as some people are saying and then move on to serious discussion of tax reform and entitlement issues. so i see it in a sense the opposite way. i say let it is done, the sequestration part in the debt ceiling in the next six weeks and then move on. those who are you saying let's do a triple by drivel, they are the ones who would be undermining the effort to sit down and had a serious discussion of tax reform. >> we have about two minutes left. francine. >> the question itemized reductions. what is your thought of having a cap and itemized deductions that people use for whatever they want. mortgage or a charity or whatever. >> i think the problem with a cat is that it has to seriously consequence, especially for charitable contributions. because a substantial portion of the charitable contributions come from the very wealthy. i think
committee as to who should testify. the debt ceiling issue should become a partisan issue. i appeal to the republicans to realize they should not place us in that kind of jeopardy. there will be hearing. we will work on witnesses today. i hope we will be resolving who the witnesses will be. i think there'll be concentration as to who they pick and our choice, one witness out of four. host: might it be secretary geithner? guest: no. host: tony. hi, tony. caller: good morning. guest: where is olive branch? i have been across the bridge there. caller: the talk about congress and everybody is looking at discretionary spending. we're finding the black rhino but we cannot take care of grandma. otherbuilding mosques foreign countries. people have to worry about being on the street and being homeless. we send money to countries to improve their water systems. thinking about the pipes in china. money out of this country. he talked about people spending money and avoiding taxes. host: we will get a response. guest: i do not know the last figure. we do have foreign assistance. it is a small pa
discussed is trying to avert the debt ceiling debate by either invoking the 14th amendment, minting a $1 trillion coin. what do you think about those? do you think those are viable options and would you be opposed to them? >> i don't believe that anyone should hold the american people hostage for a ranssome that they couldn't get in the ballot box. and that's what we see being done with the whole issue of the debt ceiling. for things we did we borrowed money. in fact, republicans and democrats alike passed these budgets and now republicans are saying they don't want to pay for the thing that is they voted for in these previous budgets. that to me is not the way you run government once again and to allow someone to play political mischief, to put preconditions on a balanced deal by saying we're going to ask for a ransom devastating cuts to social security and medicare, in order to cover costs to things like the bush tax cuts, unpaid for wars in iraq and afghanistan don't make sense. so i agree with the president. the american people should not be held hostage with this game of using the d
to americans, namely the economy, deficit and yes, even the debt ceiling. tracy: did he miss the boat though? i mean -- >> he missed --. tracy: you have an evil streak in you, you're going to do bad things. >> if you have an evil streak. if you're also mentally ill because the last four of these mass shootings, tragically have all involved mentally ill individuals. their actions, their actions are solely responsible for what transpired. nothing this president, interestingly, putting out 23, memoranda, second i have is -- executive actions calling on congress three basic things on gun control, none of them approach the issue he said this was all about, that is protecting our children. there was not one proposal or in sum all of his proposals today, that rose to the level of security and safety offered by the nra proposal to put armed guards at every school in the country. i mean that's, that is breathtaking. and how many in the national liberal media will talk note of that fact? lori: what is interesting to me, what i've been thinking about over these last couple weeks especially since newtown a
of these issues. trying to avert the debt ceiling debate by invoking the 14th amendment, cementing dosh minting the trillion dollar coin -- do you think those are viable options, would you be opposed to them being used? , i don't believe anyone should hold the -- >> i don't believe anyone should hold the american people ransom for what they could not get done in the ballot box. paying for our debts in the past -- for things we did, we borrowed money. republicans and democrats alike past these budgets -- passed these budgets. in our publicans are saying they don't want to pay for the things they voted for -- now republicans are saying they don't want to pay for things they voted for in past budget. to allow them to put conditions on the balance deal by saying we are going to ask for a ransom, devastating cuts to social security and medicare, in order to cover costs for things like the bush tax cuts, unpaid wars in iraq and afghanistan -- i agree with the president. the american people should not be held hostage with this game of using the debt ceiling as a way to try to extract what you could no
on this debt ceiling issue. i know you've said you're not negotiating on it. your administration has ruled out the various ideas that have been up there, the 14th amendment just this morning one of the house democratic leaders jim clyburn asked you to use the 14th amendment and even said sometimes that's what it takes, he brought up the emancipation proclamation, saying it took executive action when congress wouldn't act and he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan "b"? and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so there's a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us to pay our bills. now, if the house and the senate want to give me the authority so that they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year. and i'm happy to accept it. but if they want to keep this responsibility then they need to go ahead a
word about the debt ceiling, which is not everybody understands what the debt ceiling is about. the debt ceiling -- raising the debt ceiling, which congress has to do periodically, gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. it does not create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit ratings and i know how we can save money, we will not pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. it went part of the way, as you mentioned. but it leaves a number of issues still on the table and traditional negotia
rougher. >> jerry, what about all these issues in washington, the debt ceiling fight on the horizon. is this going to impact the broad economy and the earnings season, do you think? >> i guess this whole political thing is -- these are all the bricks in the wall of worry that equity markets are continuing to climb. i think there's -- you know, we know how to talk about these things, they're out there, they're visible, they're in the media a lot. you know, we follow them i think sometimes like a sport. and so maybe we exaggerate a little bit how much the -- these political match nations -- i don't know i don't want to minimize them, but i think sometimes we miss the point there are really good companies out there who figured out how to make really good money with all this political noise going on. >> and yet, greg, so many potholes ahead. you know we're going to see a lot of back and forth over raising the debt ceiling. sequestration is still on the horizon now. less than two months away. the continuing resolution. i want you to take a listen to the president's spokesperson this week
if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. president obama says he will not negotiate this issue with congress but republicans want any increase in the debt ceiling to be tied to spending cuts. >>> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so -- there is a very simple solution to this. >> now, in a statement, john boehner indicated the republican party is prepared for a fight. he said "the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are rule but so are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." >>> state lawmakers in sacramento are closely watching this debate in washington. the concern is that if congress doesn't act on the debt ceiling, the national economy could dip and that would likely have a negative effect on california's budget numbers. push >> the biggest risk to our forecast or the analysts' forecasts could come next month and that's from washington, d.c. >> the 2013 budget release by governor brown showed a surplus for the first time in many years and that was thanks to new tax revenue
on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wreak its deadly toll each day. >> this is a moment to act. >> congress is incapable of passing an assault weapon ban. >> everybody is totally upset by it. >> what makes sense? what works? >> this is a moment to act. >> this is a promise to turn the conversation into actions. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child, we should take that step. >> the lecturer in chief returns to the east room of the white house today to explain something to congressional republicans that previous presidents have not had to explain to congress. >> i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up. a
bypassing the debt ceiling -- on congress's behalf. >> democrats are urging the president to use executive order to say congress, i don't node to you raise the debt ceiling, i am going to do it on my own. i want everybody to know,utive order -- high is not the first president and won't be the last to use executive order. frankslinrosis velt passed 37 executive orders and clinton and reagan did 350-plus. i am talking about policy issues of significant magnitude that need to have a full public vetting. the american people need tock engaged in the process. we need hearing on the matter ogun control, specifically. and we really need to talk about mental health and how we as a society are not embracing people with mental health issues. that's a bigger conversation, i know, neil. >> neil: thank you for indulging all of this breaking news and being on top of it. we told you about the mulvaney amendment, matching dollar for dollar, any aide they are getting in like-minded cuts from discretionary spending. that was defeated, as expected on the flor of the house. to missouri running senator roy blun
showed lingering concern over remaining major fiscal issues like the debt ceiling is weighing on the mind of consumers. that is the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power to prosper ashley: research in motion looking to win big with the release of its new blackberry 10. the smart phone being unveiled later this month. and there is news out today that the tech company's stock is getting an upgrade. shibani joshi has details on the rim buzz. shibani. >> the buzz keeps buzzing on this one, you can't really escape it. jeffries today upgrading the stock saying they believe the e-mail and bbm messenger service will be licensed to the iphone as well as to android phones that is licensing revenues for research in motion which it needs. also getting some apps out there and early traction with enterprise customers signing onto this. that is news lifting it higher today, all around up 98%, almost doubled in the last three months. ashley: so are the gains real? this of course has been a favorite of. >> this is interesting. we're starting to uncover this a little bit. short interes
forward on some key issues such as gun control, immigration reform, tries to deal with the debt ceiling. and finally, we're told that the president will push to get the public engaged, engaged in their community, engaged in the issues to put pressure on congress to move the president's initiatives forward, john. this is seen as sort of the stage one or the act one, part two will be the president's state of the union address where he'll add more details to his proposals. >> you split it into acts there, dan, appropriate because we saw the president today, the swearing-in ceremony, but because this is a sunday, we saw him only briefly in the blue room. how has he been spending the rest of the day, and what are his plans for this evening? >> reporter: this evening within this hour, the president will be heading to the building museum for a candlelight reception there. he will be making remarks, but much of the day, you know, was quite busy earlier in the day, then had some down time. the president's still working on his speech. we're told that he's in the final stages. he did a lot of it o
that will include the story of raise the debt ceiling and also address the spending issue as they see it. >> and what is the -- is any of this complicated by the fact that treasury secretary tim is the geithner is eager to exit is posed? >> i don't think so. this is all about the president and what he wants. chief of staff, incoming treasury secretary, former omb office of management and budget director. he knows these issues. and so they have been through this exercise before, as you know, in the summer of 2011. this is nothing new, and i don't think it affected either way. >> thank you for the insight. >> anytime. .. monday evening the house rules commitey considered arguments on the relief bill. the senate passed a bill providing $60 billion in aid but the house did not take up that legislation. house republicans proposed a number of amendments to the relief package, including those requiring the aid to be offset by spending cuts. this is three hours. [inaudible conversations] >> be in order. good afternoon. delighted that we are holding our first rules committee meeting, mr. chairman
the administration yesterday on this issue. what do you think? if the debt ceiling negotiable. from eugene, oregon, jed is independent. caller: my opinion is you cannot convince me there is not excess spending and that people cannot still get paid. the debt ceiling cannot continue going up. we wonder why the majority of the united states is in debt. it is because we are taught that by government. we cannot keep borrowing. an e-mail is going around that i've seen on facebook as well, saying its 545 vs 300 million. if both sides of the party don't like debt and they don't like the deficit, then why do we have them? it's a pretty simple question. host: we will keep the conversation going throughout this morning, talking with two members of the house of representatives about their take on the debt ceiling and gun- control and other big-ticket items better up from debate in the 113 congress. on our facebook page, this is what folks are saying. jed in eugene, oregon, independent. i just spoke with him. i'm sorry. david is in kentucky, democratic caller. caller: yes, you do a good job. the last caller ha
ceiling or a whole range of other issues that the current president -- >> look, martin, du h, lincoln would agree with me on everything. this is the unmistakable mandate of history. we all know this. >> right. thank you very much. thomas frank, thank you. >>> next, the president may be one step closer to getting his man. but first, sue herera has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good to see you, martin. let's check in on how wall street finished today's trading session. it was a volatile trading day and the dow jones managed to gain 27 points. the s&p gained just under 2 points on the trading session. and the nasdaq with a drag from face boonk to the downside finished down 6.75 points. that's it from cnbc. we are first in business worldwide. martin is back after a quick break. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he
to do and authorize an increase in the debt ceiling so we can pay our debts. i think that is what will eventually happen. i do not think the going often the other direction would be that helpful. >> -- that going off in the other direction would be that helpful. >> i am a second year at the board's school. does the debt ceiling still have a practical purpose? could it be eliminated without much consequence? >> it has got symbolic value. maybe one or two other countries, but essentially no other countries and the world have this particular institution. the congress appropriates $100, tells the government to spend $100 on whatever, and then it raises $80 in revenue through its tax code. the arithmetic here says, you have to borrow $20. no, congress has to give a third 100-80 = says the 180at 20. logically, there is got to be something to make up the difference. the way to address it is by having a sensible plan for spending, insensible span foplar revenue. as i was saying before, this is like a family saying, we're spending too much. let's stop paying our credit card bill. that is n
other issues like the sequestered. republicans are floating a short-term debt ceiling increase with some modest cuts to deal with the automatic spending cuts that government funding levels and get back to an argument or discussion over the debt ceiling and spending levels once you reach the next few months. that is right now what they are discussing. they have not decided on that strategy. this is just the house republican strategy. it would then have to keep an over to the senate and agree with senate democrats and the white house. for republicans they say this is all about structural spending changes. >> i think it is very clear at this is not just the notion of paying back past dues for the united states but also making sure that the dead obama administration wants to continue to incur is restrained. >> reporter: republican leaders continue to meet with members discussing a number of different ways to deal with the debt ceiling, short-term mr. -- short term. also a longer-term extension of the ceiling that would involve larger cuts, structural changes to entitlements and tax reform, a
could the end of the debt ceiling debate sooner than expected? the house said they would vote on a debt ceiling bill next week. is this deal pushing off a bigger issue and how can you play it all to your advantage? liz: because we're a business network. what is the trade. a guy who believes he knows. larry mcdonnell, new edge director. we can not control the people in washington. we certainly can anticipate what they might do and trade off it. the debt ceiling, first of all, how big of a deal would it be to the markets in general? >> if they extended it 45 days, it would be relief. everybody is expecting march 1st problem. around december 10th looked like the president would meet the speaker. markets, beautiful rally from the december 10th to the 18th the markets rallied beautifully. from the 18th to the end of the markets dropped 4%, 4% from december 18th to the end of the year because all the good things we thought were happening behind the scenes fell apart. david: let me challenge you on that though. some people say they want to lock in the lower capital-gains tax rate at the old ta
in the politics of that. he has fights around the debt ceiling coming up and to make this the issue, how do you think that will work? >> that's why i wonder how serious he is. i'm not questioning his motives. now he knows for the next two months all we're going to be talking about is the debt ceiling, sequestration, the continuing resolution, ending the fiscal cliff, all of these. >> you're not questioning his motives of what he's suggesting. he'd rather have a conversation about guns than the debt ceiling? >> i think the president is trying to get political support from his base, maybe he feels it strengthens him going into negotiations with the republicans or the fiscal issues. listen these guys won't even ban assault weapons, how can you trust them on taxes and spending. i see it as building up his political position which is not wrong but i don't think in his heart of hearts he thinks he's going to pass any significant legislation. >> congressman king in the studio after my asking all the time. >> i couldn't stay away from you, soledad. >> she's not really a tough interviewer is she? >> she
seem to be moving on this issue and willing to increase the debt ceiling. however, i think what is going to be a problem from the white house's perspective is that three months. i was speaking with a senior administration official a little earlier today and he sort of reiterated the fact that the president is opposed to this idea of increasing the debt ceiling in these small increments because it creates crises every couple of months. so that could be a potential problem moving forward, but what is significant i think in the eyes of the white house is house speaker john boehner has sort of abandoned this idea to increase the debt ceiling and tie it to dollar to dollar spending cuts. so from their perspective that represents some movement. i have been talking to my republican sources who say they feel confident that this plan to increase the debt ceiling and then to also sort of force congress' hand on the budget in three months is something that could get through both houses. we'll have to see. i expect that all of this debating will sort of be on pause on monday and then we'll
to stop holding us hostage with the spending cuts to the debt ceiling. people are starting to feel a little bit more optimistic that might be less of an issue going forward. i still think it is a great focus people are afraid. we're pretty complacent and the volumes are really waiting to see what will happen in washington, i think. liz: charlie, you're looking at 13.25, again, another historic low for the volatility index. it is not telling me anything. what indicators to look at as a trader in the pit? >> i look at moving averages. take a look, the s&p has really held on to the moving average and a few breaks every time it has bounced off, you're doing pretty well. you look at what came out midsession today, and we're going sideways to a little higher. business activity is kind of sideways, you mentioned the housing market is starting to show some signs of life. if we can get the bankers doing quite well in terms of the stock, but in terms of generating the loans, we went from one end of the pendulum to free money and anybody who wants it to really constricting and making refinanc
tries to figure out what to do on the issue of spending and the national debt. we want to get your comments on a proposal put forth by senate democrats to bypass congress, allowing the president to raise the debt ceiling. it also removes the debate on section four of the 14th amendment. we will focus on all of this this sunday morning. it was a call. numbers at the bottom of your screen. we also want you to join us online on twitter and facebook or send us an e-mail. we will get your calls and comments in just a moment. our question, whether or not they residents can -- president can't bypass congress to raise the debt ceiling. she is preparing for his inaugural address. the president will seek a citizenship pass in a push as the debate over immigration continues here in washington and around the country. another headline getting a lot of attention is that the vice president continues his recommendations on how to deal with gun violence. tuesday he will give the president has outlined. p--- his outline. ,et's go to the hill newspaper which has one of a number of stories on this sun
is this important? because we're back to this tax issue with regard to the debt ceiling potentially and revenues and we continually here about things in the past and i'll tell you this. talk to any family that's paying whatever rate they were paying in 2012 and that's the rate that makes their family work. whatever that tax rate works. it can cover their expense, buy books, scene their kids to school, put food on the table. it doesn't matter where the tax was a generation ago or three years ago because we assimilate, we're a productive capitalist society that assimilates. it on lie matters where you are. love steve liesman's presentation. it's about government spending. what i find fascinating, what we have here is on one side debt. on the other side we have stimulus but not really. okay. boy the board is even getting excited. but debt and stimulus are the same. it just depends on which side of the check you're on. the 1.2 trillion every year in debt is basically a stimulus. so why is it so shock or why is it that to stop increasing debt that once you do the numbers go down? you know what it's l
with the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, and other pressing issues. and finally radio shack is ending its mobile phone partnership with target. the venture has been unprofitable and radio shack has been unable to negotiate more favorable terms. >>> as you know, the house is set to vote today on a $51 billion superstorm sandy package that has already turned in to a bitter battle over spending. joining us now is congressman frank pallone, who represents the sixth district of new jersey, one of the hardest-hit areas of the jersey shore during the late october storm. and congressman, thank you for being here. this was a late october storm. we are now in january. this is still going back and forth. what's happened? >> well, unfortunately, the package was delayed. it was passed in the senate just before new year's, but then the house speaker refused to take it up, and you know, we were very critical of that, because the bill could have been passed in the house and become law with the president's signature and we'd be in the rebuilding process for the jersey shore right now. but now with more and more
the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexing to try to attach that to a debt-limit deal. do they move beyond the debt limit, try to get to the continuing resolutions and those kinds of things? they recognize that this is the only area of leverage that they have, but they want to be careful about it. >> so chuck todd, how does the white house deal with that supposed leverage? >> well, first i think the republicans are hoping that they have a manti te'o
and the sequester debt ceiling argument. two big bad events, only one more station on the gauntlet. it simply isn't as scary or meaningful as when it comes to the stock market or new business formation. sorry, it won't sell as many parents, and it just won't. smart investors are making a bet they can't wait for the third of the three washington incursions to be finished. once a big bad event is passed, the rick of responding floods in. now we're about to finish the third leg of the political steeplechase, and we will be given a level of certainty. you want to wait for those people to come in? it could be investing nirvana, a guy in brooklyn, cramer, smart guy. scared us with the election, scared us with the fiscal cliff and now scaring us with the debt ceiling. what are you going to scare us with about washington after that's over and you faked everyone out and got them to sell? i rolled my eyes, i defended myself, saying all three of threes issues are and are worthy of worry and i told people to stay the course, like he could care. he said, again, what washington horror story are you going to gi
was in it. >> very difficult. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether the insurer transferred its rights to sue for losses that it incurred on its troubled bonds when it sold $2 billion in securities to the fed in 20308. aig is preserving its right to sue the federal government and other debts. >> fed chairman ben bernanke is going to speak and answer questions at the university of michigan. in d.c., president obama is said to be forging ahead on a wide ranging plan to overhaul the immigration plan this year. this includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country. immigrants would have to pay fines and back taxes. it would require bu
identify two distinct issues we have to deal with. you said of the upcoming debt ceiling showdown, the president wants an automatic credit card and he's not going to get one from the congress. i like to point out, i understand why that analogy has been made and in the past i have made it myself, but i sort of decided that i don't like it anymore because the debt limit's different from a credit card in that with a with regard you charge items when you purchase them with the intent, the agreement to pay that. the debt limit is not actually a license to spend but to pay bills. a bit of an anachronism. only denmark has it elsewhere in the world. it forces a discussion on spending cut but it's not what the debt limit is for. >> your explanations have been right on target. let me tell you what i would wish the president would do. i hope the president's successful, because as a country if he's successful, we'll be successful. but he's got to begin to negotiate with the house and the senate to find a path forward on spending less and borrowing less or we're going to be on an unsustainable
, we deterred from the president addressing the debt ceiling, here is more on the issue from this morning's "washington journal." host: did this through the new report, we're joined by the economic policy project senior director, steve bell. director, explain this term that you use. what is the x date? guest: we called the drop dead date. that is the day all these extraordinary measures expires. that means the treasury will not have enough money to pay the next bill that comes then in full and on time. host: you try to figure when that date will hit. this is a chart from the debate, when the x date could hit. why is it a range? guest: we do not know what will happen to tax refunds. there could be some delays in getting tax refunds out. people who file their tax returns and expect to get a refund. if those refunds are delayed, will be near the end of that. host: take us back to explain how we're juggling these numbers around. we hit the debt limit on december 31st. how was treasury paying the bills? guest: they are using money called extraordinary measures. they borrow money f
to raise the debt ceiling, right? president obama warned he will not enter into another game of brinkmanship as he referred to it over the debt sealing with republicans. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. martha: a lot of talk about the president's demeanor at that news conference yesterday. we'll get into that a little bit more coming up but for now does this really come down to an issue of raising the spending limit or defaulting on our credibility as the president has talked about. let's bring in stuart varney, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. so, stuart, you feel the way he is framing this is incorrect? >> yes. we're not going to default, period. we are not going to default. the default means that yo
saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidance for the next period is 0.5% to 3%. that was half a percent lower than the market was expecting. but y
there shouldn't be one. president obama thinks there shouldn't be one. do you think there should be a debt ceiling? >> listen, i prefer having a ceiling. i prefer having that sense of discipline. >> right. >> i like everybody else in this country, including the politicians have been frustrated by our inability to grab this issue by the throat and start doing something about it for the future of our competitiveness. now, we had a start with the deficit reduction efforts. >> right. >> prior to that i thought the bowles simpson commission was a powerful response to what we could do about our own deficit. >> why do you think the president ignored that? i mean his own commission, he ignored it. why do you think he did that? >> i can't speak for the president charlie. >> why do you think it got no traction then? >> this is politics. this requires two parties -- you had the republican party had to concede something on the take side. the democrats had to concede something on the spending side. the way i saw it with the spending cuts that were in process already and with the growth in the economy,
on the debt ceiling i think is so false how we racked up the bills and how we're now trying to say we don't want to pay them. who would possibly issue you more credit when you haven't put forward a plan how you're going to spend within your means within the future? american dress will not raise your limit when you can't pay it simply because you want more credit? you need to have a workout plan to deal with your debt before someone will loan you more money. >> i love this nonsense that he is spewing about being, we're not a deadbeat nation. thank you, mr. president. god we're so thrilled to have your blessing on that reality. that kind of nonsenseal talk, nonsenseal, not common senseal talk, is really the stuff that doesn't belong in a white house. it doesn't belong in the discussion. we are a debtor nation. we have been a debtor nation for quite some time. the issue is how to change it. i love the capricious way, if the problem were just about reducing deficits. mr. president, that is exactly what it is about. it is about cutting spending. it is about getting this government under contro
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